Home
Japan Bases
Mainland
Atsugi
Camp Fuji
Camp Zama
Ikego
Iwakuni
Misawa
Negishi
Sagami Depot
Sagamihara
Sasebo
Tama Hills
Yokohoma North Dock
Yokosuka
Yokota
Okinawa
Camp Courtney
Camp Foster
Camp Gonsalves
Camp Hansen
Camp Kinser
Camp Lester
Camp McTureous
Camp Schwab
Camp Shields
Camp S.D. Butler
Fort Buckner
Futenma
Kadena
Naha
Okinawa
Torii Station
White Beach
BROWSE
Classifieds
Conditions
Discussions
Driving Quiz
Gas Prices
Housing
Pictures
SUBMIT ICE
Vehicles
Videos
Social
Facebook
JB
About
Contact Us
JB BUcks
Members
Advertising
Sponsors
Privacy
Rules & Policies
Terms of Use
10199
Members
10
New Today
Login
Its Free To Join - JB Community!
Discussion Categories
Reporting/Departing
Reporting To Japan
Departing From Japan
Pets
Pets General
Arriving To Japan
Departing From Japan
Employment
General Employment
MLC Corner
Contractors Corner
Jobs Wanted
Self Employed
Post New Job Offers
NSPS & GS Corner
All Things Military
Air Force
Army
Coast Guard
Marines
Navy
All Military
Veteran Benefits
More About Japan
Art
Automotive
Beauty & Body
Crimes In Japan
Computers, Internet, & Electronics
Dating & Relationships
Emergency Alerts
Emergency Discussions
Entertainment
Family
Fashion
Finances & Investing
Food & Drink
Forward Deployed Ships
Gamers
Health & Medical
History
Holidays
Japan Culture
Jokes & Fun
Language Assistance
Legal & Law
Meet-Ups
Movies & Theater
Music
Off Topic
Photography
Politics
Public Health & Safety
Rant About Something
Religious
Schools & Education
Shopping
Shore Commands
Sports & Outdoors
Spouses
Teens
Travel
Quick View Discussions
Active Topics - Last 7 Days
Forums
Unanswered
Forums
>
Reporting & Departing
>
Reporting To Japan
House back in the States
Last Post 03-10-2012 12:19 PM by RCaruso. 13 Replies.
Sort:
Oldest First
Most Recent First
Prev
Next
You are not authorized to post a reply.
Author
Messages
Penguinetti
 
Send PM:
  
 
Location:
 
Private
 
JB Bucks:
$2.00
 
Member Since:
 
03-08-2012 12:39 PM
03-08-2012 2:01 PM
So I've been looking around the website, but I haven't been able to find anything that answers this specific question. So instead, I'll just ask the question:
Background: I'm a DoD employee who might be heading out to Yokosuka for a 3-yr stint. I have a house that I just bought with my wife, so selling it would be a bad idea. I have heard conflicting stories about whether or not the government pays for the management company you get to rent your house out.
The question: For those of you who have not sold your house back in the states, did you have to shell out the cash for the rental management, or is that something the government pays / reimburses you for?
Any information you can vouch for would be greatly appreciated.
RCaruso
 
Send PM:
  
 
Location:
 
Private
 
JB Bucks:
$7.00
 
Member Since:
 
03-07-2012 3:29 PM
03-08-2012 6:28 PM
Hmmm... I am the wife of a DoD employee also going to Yokosuka for a 3-year stint... I wonder if you are from the same agency... That would be great to have someone else going through the same situation at the same time! As far as I know, they do pay for a management company since they don't help you sell your house. However, this amount is calculated as income, so you have to pay taxes on it, but they reimburse you for the taxes. (They take taxes out of the reimbursement, so they have to reimburse you for that as well. Typical govt efficiency)
We have friends who work for the same agency who moved to Japan a few years ago, and their rental situation has been excellent. I hope we have a similar experience. (We sold our house in San Diego with a government buy-back and DO NOT recommend that ever. We were completely ripped off and lost a huge amount of money. In case that option ever comes up for you.)
felinious
 
Send PM:
  
 
Location:
 
Private
 
JB Bucks:
$371.00
 
Member Since:
 
01-24-2011 5:58 AM
03-08-2012 8:30 PM
Wow. That's better than us active duty types. We have to pay our property management company out of pocket. If anyone finds out otherwise, please post it. I would love to get free property management.
Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
03-08-2012 9:19 PM
My husband is a DoD employee and we have been out here in Japan for 3 years and are headed back to the States to live on Saturday. We pay for a property management company for our house which has been rented out while we have been here.
RoboCat
 
Send PM:
  
 
Location:
 
Private
 
JB Bucks:
$171.00
 
Member Since:
 
11-10-2010 7:17 PM
03-09-2012 11:28 AM
As far as I know you pay out of pocket for the property management. There are management companies that work specifically with DoD homeowners. I believe if you go to the VA loan office (don't quote me on this) or PSD (again don't quote, it's been a while) you can get referrals on management companies. I vaguely remember asking around the time my husband found out about us leaving. From last I remembered the cost was about 10% of monthly rent, and additional costs for finders fee (in case renters are needed)...etc. At least that's what my husband and I were quoted.
One thing to stress, find an agent that is willing to email you as many pictures/scans as you need. The people my husband and I went with does monthly drive bys on the property to make sure it is being well taken care of, and does a bi annual thorough walkthrough. She takes lots of detailed pictures. Just recently we had a pipe burst in the house, and she took lots of pictures for that as well. Provided scanned copies for receipts, pictures as the work was being done, damage report, whole nine yards. It makes me giggle to think about the plumber working on replacing the pipes while she's snapping away.
RoboCat
 
Send PM:
  
 
Location:
 
Private
 
JB Bucks:
$171.00
 
Member Since:
 
11-10-2010 7:17 PM
03-09-2012 11:30 AM
Maybe it was personal property stateside San diego that told me about the property management companies....
Penguinetti
 
Send PM:
  
 
Location:
 
Private
 
JB Bucks:
$2.00
 
Member Since:
 
03-08-2012 12:39 PM
03-09-2012 1:22 PM
Thanks everyone. This is good information. It's weird how the info differs depending on who you talk to.
RCaruso: Did you talk to your friends about their rental situation? Did they say they were being reimbursed? Also, it would be neat if we were part of the same group. I wouldn't be heading out, though, until later in the year. This is just a preliminary ' get everything in order first' kind of thing. You heading to the SRF?
travsmom: Were you given the option to have the gov't pay if you used a particular management company, or was it straight, 'good luck on your own' kind of thing?
RoboCat: You bring up the VA loan office; did you husband go over to Japan as military or as a civilian DoD employee? Also, thanks for the advice about the management company. It sounds like real good advice.
RCaruso
 
Send PM:
  
 
Location:
 
Private
 
JB Bucks:
$7.00
 
Member Since:
 
03-07-2012 3:29 PM
03-09-2012 5:50 PM
Penguinetti-
My husband doesn't know what the SRF is, so I guess not! ;-)
To any DoD people: His agency has regs for reimbursement of rental management fees. He also says see the Department of State relocation guide. Hope this helps!
RCaruso
 
Send PM:
  
 
Location:
 
Private
 
JB Bucks:
$7.00
 
Member Since:
 
03-07-2012 3:29 PM
03-09-2012 6:03 PM
Oh. Here's more info. If your regs come from the JTR, they are consolidated in chapter 38 which is apparently under revision currently. Now, I have to admit I have no idea what the above statement means, since I am not government employee. But mayb it means something to you all and can help.
RCaruso
 
Send PM:
  
 
Location:
 
Private
 
JB Bucks:
$7.00
 
Member Since:
 
03-07-2012 3:29 PM
03-09-2012 6:28 PM
Ugh. Federal Joint Travel Regulations. Thats what he was talking about. So in chapter 38 the rules for this are covered. If your travel regs are in the JTR, you will find the subject of rental management companies discussed.
Drudwn
 
Send PM:
  
 
Location:
 
Private
 
JB Bucks:
$80.00
 
Member Since:
 
02-26-2010 8:04 AM
03-09-2012 8:50 PM
Must be nice. I manage all three of my properties myself from Japan. Lots of late night calls, emails, and antacids.
30MM
 
Send PM:
  
 
Location:
 
Private
 
JB Bucks:
$1457.00
 
Member Since:
 
02-25-2011 5:44 AM
03-09-2012 10:53 PM
I manage a property from Japan as well, I find it to be ridiculously easy and very profitable it involves me going to the bank once a month and making a deposit on a certified check. The leases for your state can be found online for free if you know where to look, then you can tailor them to your specific needs. I have had the same tenants since I have been in Japan and they just resigned a new lease for another 18 months. Most likely I'll just sell the property someday but currently it's a steady income and the benefit of being able to depreciate a rental home on taxes allows me just about avoid paying taxes on about 25K annually too.
Zero late night calls, emails for new leases every 18 months, no prescription or over the counter medication. I would say maybe it's a fluke but I have owned many homes in many states and have they have always produced similar results.
I recommend only buying at the right price, leasing to the right tenants and only selling for a profit. Many locations in country have declined quite a bit due to the housing implosion the location of my property hasn't really been affected since I have owned it. I purchased it on a short sale for about 80K less than the previous owner payed for the property and they spent about 50-70K completing the basement too.
So it can be a positive experience too if you play your cards right.
Groovie
 
Send PM:
  
 
Location:
 
Private
 
JB Bucks:
$282.00
 
Member Since:
 
07-02-2011 4:45 PM
03-09-2012 10:56 PM
We are an AD family and manage our home in the States ourselves. We have a good home warranty so haven't had any huge issues thus far.
RCaruso
 
Send PM:
  
 
Location:
 
Private
 
JB Bucks:
$7.00
 
Member Since:
 
03-07-2012 3:29 PM
03-10-2012 12:19 PM
My friend says that they found a local property manager for their house and that they recommend that to everyone. The ones from DC aren't actually here taking care of things and she has heard horror stories about frustrating situations from other agents. Additionally, she says that the local managers are motivated to keep the house occupied since they only get paid if rent is coming in. They pay the manager a percent of the rent, then get reimbursed for that cost.
You are not authorized to post a reply.
Website
--Campaigns
--Website Announcements
Reporting & Departing
--Reporting To Japan
--Departing From Japan
All Things Military
--U.S. Air Force
--U.S. Army
--U.S. Coast Guard
--U.S. Marines
--U.S. Navy
----NAVADMINs
----ALNAVs
--All Military
--Veteran Benefits and Information
More About Japan
--Art
--Automotive
--Beauty & Body
--Crimes In Japan
--Computers, Internet, & Electronics
--Dating & Relationships
--Emergency Alerts - All of Japan Bases
----Emergency Open Discussions
--Entertainment
--Events
--Family
--Fashion
--Finances & Investing
--Food & Drink
--Forward Deployed Ships
--Gamers
--Health & Medical
--History
--Holidays
--Japan Culture
--Jokes & Fun
--Language Assistance
--Legal & Law
--Meet-ups
--Movies & Theater
--Music
--Off Topic
--Photography
--Politics
--Public Health and Safety
--Rant About Something
--Religious
--Schools & Education
----Elementary Schools In Japan
----Middle Schools in Japan
----High Schools in Japan
----Colleges in Japan
--Shopping
--Shore Commands
--Sports & Outdoors
--Spouses
--Teens
--Travel
----Travel Around Asia
----Travel Within Japan
----Travel in USA
U.S. Bases In Japan
--Atsugi Naval Air Base
----Atsugi Base Festivals & Events
----Atsugi Base Announcements
--Camp Courtney Base
----Camp Courtney Base Announcements
----Camp Courtney Base Festivals & Events
--Camp Foster Base
----Camp Foster Base Announcements
----Camp Foster Base Festivals & Events
--Camp Fuji Base
----Camp Fuji Base Announcements
----Camp Fuji Base Festivals & Events
--Camp Gonsalves Base
----Camp Gonsalves Base Announcements
----Camp Gonsalves Base Festivals & Events
--Camp Hansen Base
----Camp Hansen Base Announcements
----Camp Hansen Base Festivals & Events
--Camp Kinser Base
----Camp Kinser Base Announcements
----Camp Kinser Base Festivals & Events
--Camp Lester Base
----Camp Lester Base Announcements
----Camp Lester Base Festivals & Events
--Camp McTureous Base
----Camp McTureous Base Announcements
----Camp McTureous Base Festivals & Events
--Camp Schwab Base
----Camp Schwab Base Announcements
----Camp Schwab Base Festivals & Events
--Camp Shields Base
----Camp Shields Base Announcements
----Camp Shields Base Festivals & Events
--Camp Smedley D. Butler Base
----Camp Smedley D. Butler Base Announcements
----Camp Smedley D. Butler Base Festivals & Events
--Fort Buckner Base
----Fort Buckner Base Announcements
----Fort Buckner Base Festivals & Events
--Futenma Base
----Futenma Base Announcements
----Futenma Base Festivals & Events
--Ikego Naval Base
----Ikego Base Announcements
----Ikego Base Festivals & Events
--Iwakuni Marine Corps Air Station
----Iwakuni Base Announcements
----Iwakuni Base Festivals & Events
--Kadena Air Base
----Kadena Base Announcements
----Kadena Base Festivals & Events
--Kure Base
----Kure Base Announcements
----Kure Base Events & Festivals
--Misawa Air Base
----Misawa Base Announcements
----Misawa Base Festivals & Events
--Naha Air Base
----Naha Air Base Announcements
----Naha Air Base Events & Festivals
--Negishi Naval Base
----Negishi Base Announcements
----Negishi Base Festivals & Events
--Okinawa Bases
--Okinawa Marine Corps Base
----Okinawa Marine Corps Base Announcements
----Okinawa Marine Corps Base Festivals & Events
--Sagami Depot Base
----Sagami Depot Base Announcements
----Sagami Depot Base Events & Festivals
--Sagamihara Housing Base
----Sagamihara Housing Base Announcements
----Sagamihara Housing Base Festivals & Events
--Sasebo Naval Base
----Sasebo Base Announcements
----Sasebo Base Festivals & Events
----Sasebo Spotlight
--Tama Hills Base
----Tama Hills Base Announcements
----Tama Hills Base Festivals & Events
--Torii Station Base
----Torii Station Base Announcements
----Torii Station Base Festivals & Events
--Urago Ammunition Depot Base
----Urago Ammunition Depot Base Announcements
----Urago Ammunition Depot Base Events & Festivals
--White Beach Base
----White Beach Base Announcements
----White Beach Base Festivals & Events
--Yokohama North Dock Base
----Yokohama North Dock Base Announcements
----Yokohama North Dock Base Events & Festivals
--Yokosuka Naval Base
----Yokosuka Base - Announcements
----Yokosuka Base - Bravo Zulu's
----Yokosuka Base - Official Q & A's
----Yokosuka Base - Festivals & Events
----Yokosuka Base - Konnichiwa
----Yokosuka Base - Photo of the Day
--Yokota Air Base
----Yokota Base Announcements
----Yokota Base Festivals & Events
--Zama Army Base
----Zama Base Announcements
----Zama Base Festivals & Events
Jobs & Employment
--General Employment Questions
--Post New Job Offers
--Job Wanted
--Self-Employed
--Contractors Corner
--MLC Corner
--NSPS & GS Corner
Pets In Japan
--Pets General Chat
--Arriving To Japan With Pets
--Departing From Japan With Pets
Forums
>
Reporting & Departing
>
Reporting To Japan
Atsugi
Camp Chitose
Camp Courtney
Camp Foster
Camp Fuji
Camp Gonsalves
Camp Hansen
Camp Kinser
Camp Lester
Camp McTureous
Camp Schwab
Camp Shields
Camp Smedley D. Butler
Camp Zama
Fort Buckner
Futenma
Ikego
Iwakuni
Kadena
Misawa
Naha
Negishi
Okinawa
Sagami Depot
Sagamihara
Sasebo
Tama Hills
Torii Station
Urago
White Beach
Yokohoma North Dock
Yokosuka
Yokota
Japanbases.com is the best location to collaborate with military friendly people living overseas in Japan.
If your reporting to Japan, already living in Japan, or just interested in Japan, than JB is the place to visit.
JB members have a great understanding of Japan, and are very helpful at providing you answers to any questions you may have.
Our JB staff is devoted to creating the largest informational library, products, and services for those living overseas in Japan.