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Dangerous allowing people with baby strollers jogging along the side of the streets
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    Q: There is a situation which I see on base that is a tragedy in the making. There are people with baby strollers jogging along the side of the streets. As joggers do stumble and fall occasionally, it is very possible that they would send the baby stroller into oncoming traffic and a tragedy would follow. I think restricting the jogging with the strollers to the track around the Berkey Field recreation area would be a better and safer choice rather than in the streets with traffic.

    A: Commander Fleet Activities Yokosuka does allow individual joggers the opportunity to run on surface streets and sidewalks, provided that they adhere to the jogging policies as outlined in CFAY instruction CFAYINST 5800.2F, Article 26. We appreciate your concerns for the potential situation that you have described, but feel that if joggers adhere to the provisions of this instruction, specifically choosing a running time that is not during rush hour traffic periods, run as to face oncoming traffic and run single file on roads and streets, this would mitigate such a case as the one you cited. I do not feel that restricting or limiting joggers who run with strollers only to run around the track at Berkey Field would not be prudent since the safety measures that I have mentioned are sufficient enough to ensure the safety of both jogger and stroller occupant.
     

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    I think that if people would travel at the posted speed limit then they would have time to respond to any acidents or incidents.

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    I agree. Most of the people that use the jogger strollers come down the command hill and the speed limit is 20 kph. That is very very slow, so its very easy to respond to emergency driving situations.

    Those that do not follow the rules, could of course be a potential danger on the roads to these strollers..

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    Just out of curiosity, are there no sidewalks on base? We are planning a potential move there next year & I have a double jogger. I was hoping/planning on doing a lot of walking. Am I living a pipe dream?

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    Well I'm one of those people who jog on base with a stroller. On all jogging strollers, they have a band that goes around your wrist to prevent the stroller from going into the street if the parent for some reason let go of the stroller. It doesn't mean everyone will use there, but there is something on there for this very reason. Yes, there are sidewalks out here, but if you are running, it's not the best choice. A lot of people don't like to move out of the way when you are running with something really big in front of you. It's even harder with a double jogger. It's just really simple on how all of this can work. Drivers need to do the speed limit at all times, parents need to follow the rules of the road with it does come to running, same as those who don't have kids and go running around base and don't be running during high traffic times. I've seen lots of people run at night as well. As long as you have lights/reflectors on the runner/jogging stroller, it shouldn't be a real problem. But the best choice is to be running when it's light out. People who have children shouldn't have to just run over by the football fields because others don't like waiting for us mom's and dad's who do run around base with our children to cross the street or be more aware when people are driving here. This isn't the USA, we need to be careful on base period since there are so many young children out here in general. I've seen lots of times where a child has run out in the street because they were trying to be funny. I would know because my daughter has tried this several times, thank God it wasn't where anyone was around. There are lots of adults on this base too who just walk in the street and don't even look. I think I've almost hit more adults than strollers, children, and pets. People and strollers isn't the problem, it's people with enough sense to pay attetion when driving and walking is the real problem.

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    Some of the places choose to do this are extremely dangerous. I am not even talking about cars and such, I am talking about all of the uneven surfaces that people are trying to push their stroller along while running. There is a sidewalk, then there is a road or alley with no crosswalk, then the road surface is bumpy, then another sidewalk. If they dont hit it all just right, they are going to run their stroller and kid right into a rut on the edge of the road or a curb and that will be the end of that. But hey, its your kids so do what you want.

    Idea of exercise= good! Idea of "I can run with my stroller ANYwhere I want and people and cars need to watch out for ME"= BAD. Run around the RUNNING track that is provided=BEST Its called a sideWALK for a reason, you know? people trying to WALK there :-)
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    Thanks for the helpful replies. I appreciate it.

    But let me ask you this--Is it more of a problem for joggers to find places to run b/c they prefer a smooth surface (no curbs to hop up/down)? I guess smooth is irrelevent b/c it sounds like the roads may be rough...but as a walker (with a double stroller), will I be able to find enough safe walking paths? Being out & about during heavy traffic times and/or at night won't be an issue.

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    Blacklabel- I do see your point and didn't fully think it out from earlier. The thing is that I'm one of those people who get bored going around in circles all the time. But when I am running out there, it's no where near any of the tunnels. It's always in a very low traffic area. Some people don't always do that, and yes, it can be a huge problem. I just don't think that parents who do want to run should only have to run on the track.

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    Posted By missmeliss on 02 Jun 2010 12:13 PM

    Thanks for the helpful replies. I appreciate it.

    But let me ask you this--Is it more of a problem for joggers to find places to run b/c they prefer a smooth surface (no curbs to hop up/down)? I guess smooth is irrelevent b/c it sounds like the roads may be rough...but as a walker (with a double stroller), will I be able to find enough safe walking paths? Being out & about during heavy traffic times and/or at night won't be an issue.

    Thanks again.




    I am a walker only, and although I don't have a double, as long as you use the sidewalks (which are wide enough for a double, my friend has done it perfectly fine) and pay attention to your surroundings you will be fine.

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    @SamiMaMa Yeah I know what you are saying about the boredom and I think its great that some people actually get out of the house and exercise. Just worried about all of you and your babies when I see people trying to run at more than half speed up and down sidewalks and across bumpy places. I dont want any preventable tragedies here so those of you that do this please be safe and pick the "right" type of places to do this if you dont want to use the track.

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    I just have to say something on this because I was so irritated by a woman pushing a stroller in the street yesterday. First I ALWAYS drive the speed limit or under, why simply because of the car I drive the SP single me out for extra attention but thats a rant for another day.
    But I digress the woman was pushing a jogging stroller on the side of the road across from the bowling alley against traffic. She had that nice big sidewalk with NO one else walking and yet she choose to walk along the side of the road pushing her children. Is there something I am missing here? Why would you choose this route especially if there is a open side walk. I always make my children walk on the inside of the sidewalk while I walk closer to traffic.
    Am I out of line and just missing the big picture?

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    Some of the sidewalks on base are awful. I cannot fit my single stroller on the sidewalk. Most of the young (20's somethings) do not move to one side and give you space. There has been many times that I've been forced out onto the street because they would not move. This is really bad around NFCU and the NEX.

    Out by the seawall and the fire house, there are nice sidewalks and the scenery is refreshing too. However there is alot of blind spots. So if drivers are not being careful then an accident could occur.

    I think both pedestrians and drivers need to be aware. But I think pedestrians need to be more aware, because really who do you think is going to win, you or the car? The correct answer is the car. Don't risk it.

    And people, please wear reflectors on your carriage AND YOU! Don't wear black in the dark. Use some common sense.

    And other pedestrians if you see a mommy pushing a baby down the sidewalk please move to one side and let them pass. And if they run you over, it's your fault for not moving over.

    Again, who is going to win, you or the baby cart? (That one is a joke, I would never risk somone shoving my baby cart. Granted there's been times I've wanted to clip people in the heels. You know like you would with a shopping cart? I think it's very rude that they don't move over to the side.)
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