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    Years ago when I was on my first tour of duty in Japan (and Moby Dick was still a minnow), I ran into this old salt who seemed to have been around since the "Occupation". He referred to himself as a "Bamboo Gaijin". He described this as meaning that he and those like him had been sent to Japan and managed to continue to remain and had "Gone Native" so to speak. Some have retired or left the Navy and remained in Japan to work as civilians.

    Whatever you call them, if you are new to Japan, you will soon begin to notice them. Why do they choose to remain in Japan indefinitely? I would say that the number of reasons is as varied as their number.

    A common denominator is usually marriage to a Japanese national but many do marry and return to the States where their spouses successfully assimilate or not but remain there. So, why do some do all in their power to remain in Japan?

    Japan is a society and culture which is vastly different than the U.S. It has a special intangible quality and charm which is non-existent in the U.S. It is a culture which values the harmony of society over individual rights and this is it's appeal. The cohesiveness of group consciousness in Japan is intoxicating and seductive to the newcomer from the U.S. Rodney King asked "Can't we all just get along?" The Japanese have figured that one out a long time ago. Being an ethnically homogeneous population also helps. Diversity is promoted in the U.S. Not so much in Japan.

    So, are you? Why do you remain in Japan?

    What about me? I left in '94 but late at night when I'm on the internet, I think I'm still there.
     

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    It's safe. It's predictable. Trains run on time. You are held accountable when you screw up. They respect the elderly. You can still ride a bicycle down the street safely. I could go on and on why I don't return to the U.S.

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    Oh thank goodness. For a moment, I thought the original post said "U.S.S. Rodney King". I was thinking: "Did they really name a ship after him??" lol

    I cannot claim to be a bamboo gaijin, though this is my third time here. I'm not gaining much fluency in the language, alas.

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    Bamboo is I.

    Wife, safety, food, temple, yellow fever, friends, customer service (off base). I could go on and on.

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    I found this so using my excellent copy & paste skills, here it is:

    From Invisible Gaijin: 59 Ways to Tell if You’re a Gaijin, not a Gaikokujin
    from gaijin complex by Alexis

    Reposted with permission from a fabulous blog: Invisible Gaijin

    Perhaps this will be me some day…

    1. You call yourself gaijin because you know it pisses off the newbie gaikokujin.
    2. You bow repeatedly when talking on the phone.
    3. You offer your business card before shaking hands with a visitor from overseas.
    4. You prefer Japanese Big Macs to American Big Macs.
    5. You can sing enka perfectly but Japanese colleagues still ask you to sing “Country Road” at karaoke.
    6. You freak out folks back home when you take off your shoes at the door.
    7. You automatically duck your head when exiting the subway.
    8. You ignore other gaijin, especially the tourists who make eye contact and smile.
    9. You have pretended you don’t speak English at least three times.
    10. You fold the paper wrapper for the chopsticks to make a neat little stand.
    11. You put chopsticks back into the paper wrapper AND rewrap the rubber band around the bento box when you’re done.
    12. You keep expecting restaurants back home to give you a nice hot towel at the beginning of every meal.
    13. You watch Sho-ten, Chibi-Maruko, then Sazae-san on TV every Sunday.
    14. You no longer wonder why Americans have such large asses.
    15. You still wonder why Japanese don’t have any asses.
    16. You recycle plastic bottles, meat trays, cardboard, and milk cartons.
    17. You have run outside and bought a yaki-imo during the winter.
    18. You find the McDonalds Mr. James stereotype to be mildly amusing and not worth getting upset over.
    19. You can name at least 23 Japanese prefectures.
    20. You have climbed Mt. Fuji more than once.
    21. You sympathize with gaijin tarento on TV even if you find their gei unfunny.
    22. You have impressed Japanese friends with a senryu, kotowaza, or yojijukugo once too many times.
    23. You frequent at least three izakaya where everybody knows your name.
    24. You avoid the American Club like the plague.
    25. You know everybody’s name at Tokyo 2.0 and CGM Night.
    26. You can tell jokes in Japanese that actually make Japanese people laugh.
    27. You can read/write kanji your Japanese friends can’t.
    28. You save the plastic bags from the supermarket to use as trash bags.
    29. You shake your head when you see people put out moenai gomi on moeru gomi day.
    30. You actually like natto, shirako, sazae-no-tsuboyaki, kusaya, or shiokara.
    31. You have a favorite brand of Japanese sake, shochu, or beer.
    32. You avoid Roppongi because they are too many gaijin.
    33. You have been inside one of those “oppai momi-momi” places in Roppongi.
    34. You think self-proclaimed otaku you meet online are just silly.
    35. You have carried a mikoshi at a local matsuri or danced at obon.
    36. You have published at least three photos of “Engrish” signs on your blog.
    37. You have a sake story, just as you have a tequila story.
    38. You have carried a co-worker onbu-style after a company party at least three times.
    39. You know which vending machines have the best prices.
    40. You are friends with all the obasan in the neighborhood and they always compliment your nihongo.
    41. You go to the gym and stoically pretend not to notice Japanese staring at your private parts.
    42. You bathe twice as much here than you used to back home.
    43. You prefer Japanese junk food to the stuff you can get back home.
    44. You go back home on vacation but wonder why things don’t work like they do in Japan.
    45. You know the back-story of Hachiko in Shibuya.
    46. You never miss the last train no matter how drunk you get.
    47. Japanese people are shocked to discover you’re gaijin when they meet you for the first time in person.
    48. You can do a passable regional dialect.
    49. You can name at least 17 Sumo waza.
    50. You can explain the difference between Kanto and Kansai styles of unagi.
    51. You have been to Nikko and can say kekko.
    52. You cry watching Japanese dramas on TV but never admit it to gaijin friends.
    53. You have at least three books on Japan/Japanese culture that you bought but never read.
    54. You have been inside the gates of the Imperial Palace on the Emperor’s birthday or oshogatsu.
    55. You don’t bother commenting on stupid blog entries about weird Japan.
    56. You know the difference between okonomi-yaki and monja-yaki.
    57. You no longer try to explain why you choose to live in Japan to friends back home.
    58. You think Tamori is funnier than Sanma.
    59. You think, “I should have written that,” when reading a weird Japan story in the New York Times

    For the unacquainted, technically Gaijin is a contraction of Gaikokujin, and means “outsider” vs. “foreigner” (Gaikokujin). There’s quite a bit of controversy that can be found around the internet, one such discussion here.

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    I think people who can't make in America are bound to live in another country. U know the people who are weak, or nerdy in school, tend to down America because they were known as a joke or no one take them seriously. Thats why they stay here because they can stand out here...

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    Posted By Pretnpink on 26 Feb 2010 06:59 PM
    I think people who can't make in America are bound to live in another country. U know the people who are weak, or nerdy in school, tend to down America because they were known as a joke or no one take them seriously. Thats why they stay here because they can stand out here...
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    So you are saying that individuals who choose to reside overseas are unattractive social misfits who seek validation in a setting which views them positively? To put it simply, "LBH" i.e. "Loser Back Home"

    This is is a common delusion experienced by such as yourself which I call "Japan Derangement Syndrome". Having been accustomed to being the attention getter until arrival in Japan, you are perplexed and disoriented by a new paradigm in which you are no longer deemed to be desirable by the males that you once had the ability to pick or reject at will. Your fragile psyche is overwhelmed so you must create for yourself some fantasy to explain your predicament. Unfortunately, your condition will not likely improve until you return to your point of origin.


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    I love it when people used big words... but Yes is the answer...LOL

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    I don't agree with Pretnpink, but to say that woman coming over here are rejected is pretty ridiculous, man.
    "When I pulled my hamstring I went to the Misogynist." -Brittany

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    Trust me, All the men desire me... LOL.... I love it!!! People are so sensitive..

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    Posted By Westpac Wayfarer on 26 Feb 2010 07:31 PM
    Posted By Pretnpink on 26 Feb 2010 06:59 PM
    I think people who can't make in America are bound to live in another country. U know the people who are weak, or nerdy in school, tend to down America because they were known as a joke or no one take them seriously. Thats why they stay here because they can stand out here...
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    So you are saying that individuals who choose to reside overseas are unattractive social misfits who seek validation in a setting which views them positively? To put it simply, "LBH" i.e. "Loser Back Home"

    This is is a common delusion experienced by such as yourself which I call "Japan Derangement Syndrome". Having been accustomed to being the attention getter until arrival in Japan, you are perplexed and disoriented by a new paradigm in which you are no longer deemed to be desirable by the males that you once had the ability to pick or reject at will. Your fragile psyche is overwhelmed so you must create for yourself some fantasy to explain your predicament. Unfortunately, your condition will not likely improve until you return to your point of origin.

    that right there was some funny ass s**t!!!




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    Damn, John. Well played, my friend. Pink clearly is one of those chicks that masturbates while looking at herself in the mirror.
    Warning: Eventually, I WILL say something that offends you. This is perfectly normal. My recommendation: get over it.

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    Posted By KeithJ on 26 Feb 2010 08:40 PM
    Damn, John. Well played, my friend. Pink clearly is one of those chicks that masturbates while looking at herself in the mirror.

    damn u never fail to get a laugh from me...lol

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    It's like Carlos Mencia said.... if you ain't laughin, you ain't livin.
    Warning: Eventually, I WILL say something that offends you. This is perfectly normal. My recommendation: get over it.

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    Hey! Neither Tamori or Sanma is funny! Ninety-nine.... now THAT's some funny crap.

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    Posted By Pretnpink on 26 Feb 2010 08:17 PM
    Trust me, All the men desire me... LOL.... I love it!!! People are so sensitive..

    From Westpac Wayfarer




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    LOL!!!! U understand me, don't you...LOL...

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    U know everything I said is the Truth, thats why u are crying..... LOL... Its all good... I will try to be a more sensitve to u all needs... Here's a tissue for your issue..

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    Isn't that you in the photo Westpac? The balding dough boy in the blue shirt on the floor? The gig is up you do love the American ladies.

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    rofl damn sic burn.
    I am whats known as MANTASTIC!!!

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    But for GP my navy wife is not fat but she is asian lol. Win = Me...
    I am whats known as MANTASTIC!!!

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    That was a great party! I took the pictures.

    Only Womantastic for Mantastic:-)

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    lol there is a shift coming, skinny chicks are going out of style. You all should invest in fried chicken joints lol.
    I am whats known as MANTASTIC!!!

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    Like mangoat with his Popeye's?
    Warning: Eventually, I WILL say something that offends you. This is perfectly normal. My recommendation: get over it.

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    Back to the topic at hand for the original poster: Yes, I do!
    I live in a big house on a large plot of land in a rural community close to three resort beaches and a bunch of other neat stuff. To live in a similar coastal area in CONUS would cost me 5-10 times what I pay for rent here. The bus stop is 50 meters away, I can walk a "klick" to stores, restaurants, karaoke boxes and bars an not have to worry about getting shot. Walking home late one weekend night the kid at the 7-11 gave me a free corn dog because it was time to throw them away and he didn't want to see them go to waste. I enjoy Japanese TV because it's educational. Only you that watch it would know that and agree with me so those that don't will just have to trust me on this. I get real bowls and dishes from my local Chinese delivery, not cardboard boxes. The toothless ol' lady that I buy my summer veggies from always throws in something extra. I can get real bottled un-homogenized milk with cream on top. There's no shochu in CONUS. Most Japanese restaurants in CONUS are owned by Koreans. Authentic? I think not. The guy who changes out my LP gas tanks promised not to show up before 10 am on Saturdays but still likes to bang the bottles against the wall when I'm in the kitchen, which startles the crap out of me. When I open the door he just smiles and says, "I did it again, didn't I?". There's nothing between my house and the road 75 meters away except air. I have flowered bushes planted in such a way that I have something blooming 12 months of the year. The ladies are marvelous. I get to party with the Japanese army 'cause they live where I do. I've lived here long enough to establish enough relationships that I'm never short of assistance from my local neighbors and friends. I don't get shot at. When I go out to dinner I'm chatting with the owners while I dine. There are no izakaya in CONUS. I like being able to eat, drink, chat, watch TV, sing and dance all at the same time at the same place.
    That's enough for now.

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    Yep... that about covers it.

    Although Beck obviously has a fear of getting shot. On his list of things, he mentions it twice.

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    Lol, I noticed that too.

    That is one of the reasons I would dearly love to become a bamboo Gaijin, tho. Seriously. A lot of stress was lifted for us when we moved here (bad experience at the last command).
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    That's the real reason he lives in Japan. There's a bunch of angry women with guns looking for him stateside.

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    Jeeze, WW, not far from the truth on THAT one! But if they ddin't do the things they do I wouldn't have to make the remarks I make when I see stupidity in action! Did I ever mention the time a few years back when I flew into Seattle and was waiting for my connection? The restaurant with the longest line was Micky Dee's. And I think there was a 150lb minimum to stand inthat line!
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