Someone was searching for this on this website a few hours ago, which made me realize a good topic to bring to light.
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Question: Do parents realize that some junior sailors that live near the Barracks, or TPU are 17, 18, 19 years old?

This age, is very close to Juniors and Seniors in High School.  I have seen personally a few young girls hanging around those areas, and it may be a cool hangout for them, but we all know what is probably occuring.  OLDER MEN, they have access to their own rooms, they have money in their pockets, etc....

I was once there, too, but it makes me realize, if parents even realize this goes on.

With this being searched on this website, I wonder if an incident actually occurred, and someone was looking for more details?

Well, no one 18 or younger is allowed in the barracks. And even if they're 18, regardless of age, High School students are not allowed in period. There are watches in place to keep out anyone trying to slide past... Also, recently no females are allowed in male barracks, and vice versa.

But what they do out in town on the other hand (as long as they're within the legal age)...

Yes, Adam, I do wonder if something happened, hmmm. And kinda scary.

Plus, even if a High School girl was the "legal" age, why the F would you want to mess around with some Chief's or Officer's daughter!?

Dont they have side doors?

why the F would you want to mess around with some Chief's or Officer's daughter!?

I know someone that still brags, how he used to mess around with the CMC's daughter.. Some people just get there little highs off of those type of situations..  It was not a huge age difference, but they were in HS together.. Still, just the rep, is what some guys are all after.

They're fire escapes, and they're locked and checked periodically by the watches. And all personal in the barracks must sign a page 13 stating they won't use the side doors otherwise they'll go to Mast for art. 92. (this is coming from Firballfish, btw. Lol).

Good lord.... I want to stay away from this one. All I'm going to contribute is this:

This is nothing new. I've spoken to a fair share of people, and it's a known fact that high school girls go to the single sailor barracks for, ahem, "entertainment". It's been going on for a very long time on this base. Now that we've "blown up their spot", in my home terminology, do with it what you will. I fully intend to stay far, far, away from this one.

They're fire escapes, and they're locked and checked periodically by the watches

If girls can be hidden and brought into prisons or guards paid off, you dont think a sailor will turn the shoulder for another sailor?

There used to be a HUGE problem, back in the day with sailors sneaking girls in their trunks, to bring girls onbase, only so they didnt have to sign the girl in OVERNIGHT. Then they would gracefully drive her off-base, and know one would be the wiser.

Things of course have changed from a long time ago, but still there are a few idiots that think they WONT GET CAUGHT, and pull stupid tricks like that for no reason what so ever.. They are so broke, they cannot afford a hotel room off-base, so they try to save some money and sneak a girl onbase.

Either, way, I still think stupid things happen, and people are just in the blind. Not more than 8 years ago I was a junior sailor myself. I knew things that went on, and I dont think things change. They may of had to figure out new ways, but I can assure you, junior sailors target young high school girls..

Still, just the rep, is what some guys are all after.

I completely understand this unfortunately from working in the bars on base, lol. Most of the other guys said they were F-ed up and couldn't get a "real woman" etc etc. Thank goodness.

I dont think its the 20+ guys, because there are plenty of Japanese girls off-base for them to target. Its the younger guys.. 17,18,19 that I think are young, and those Junior and Seniors are just around their age..

Liz, I'm gonna say that you're talking out of the side of your face on this one. If i was 19, and a high school was oh, less than half a mile away, guess what honey. It's GAME ON. And that's the sad reality of it.

There are probably seniors that are 17,18, and possibly 19, (if they failed a grade or two)...

So all I am saying, is are the parents aware, that this may be the hangout?

I can just see it now.. Alcohol, Sailors, Alcohol, Teenagers, Alcohol, Sailors = SECURITY's WORST NIGHTMARE!!!

I would have to say if a sailor is dum enough to throw his career away then so be it. Ive already been in the jury and a balif at 2 court martial proceedings here at CFAY for the same situations. All I can say is raise your kids the right way and if you see these things happening you need to intervien immediately.

yea, if I was 18 and a H/S was near me I would be on it. Its easy because you are the same age but with more money. If you are around the same age I see no harm, unless you are older and that's when you need to seek it else were.

Maybe security ought to install cameras at the entrances...well they would have to find the funds for that first.

Let me ask a question... is a problem with the teenagers and junior sailors, or a problem with parenting?

I honestly can say i dont really know how this all got started, I work for CFAY MP and I live in barracks 3333 and the 2 years I've been here there probably has been a problem with it, but like some people said "a  sailor to help out another sailor" and the CS's that work in the barracks on duty at night all go to there room and go to sleep, so if you wanted to bring in a high school girl it would be so damn easy (Havnt done it, never will) if people want this to stop someone needs to mention about the CS's not standing there watch properly, whenever im on patrols rolling by all the barracks ive never stumbled across this situation before. The side doors to the barracks are locked you can exit them (without the art. 92) but not enter them, sometimes the doors dont latch all the way when you exit and therefore people come and bring people in.  But i think that this isnt a big issue in my book, i think people need to be talking about the more serious issues, like all the DUI's, and DWI's that we've had on base recently, but thats just my take on things.

MA3
CFAY Security

Is 19 (Sailor) and 17 (teenager wrong).. Isnt this legal?

I understand 16,15,14... But what is the legal age limit over here, because Japan's legal age limit for Japanese girls is 16.

How Young Is Too Young In Japan?

The alchohol restrictions on base are so strict already, if someone gets caught, then they seriously deserved it.

Hmm good question(about parenting)...but unfortunately kids will find a way to do what they want. They'll do whatever it takes to sneak out. Teens are just reckless and think they're invincible..it's literally in their hormones.(risk-taking, not thinking of consequences)

.it's literally in their hormones.(risk-taking, not thinking of consequences)

I dont want to start bashing on teens again, because I think this website has done its fair share of that. My original question, was Do the Parents Know That Teens possibly hang out near the sailors barracks, or near TPU? Even if you asked your children, would they tell you the truth?

yes japan's LEGAL age is 16 but that does not apply to military members over here if there over 18. and i understand this website talks about everything, but this is not an important issue, the main gate keeps sailors from bringing on people from certain times and they have to leave depending on the pass they have, and as far as the barracks issue goes secruty is doing our part, its the watchstanders for the barracks allowing this to happen.

I never thought it was security to blame. I would blame parents, then I would blame, the watch standers. For starters, they should know where their kids are. Second, I think your right, it is the watch standers, (friends of friends) that will turn their head for their buddy.. I know because I remember..

Security does a great job. Keep up the great work.. Check those trunks every now and again though..

Viperboy, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. Look at where Kinnick high school is. Do you know where the single sailor barracks is? RIGHT NEXT TO THE GALLEY. What does it take for some high school chick to walk over to the barracks and seduce some young and dumb sailor? NOTHING.

Check those trunks every now and again though

haha thats good, guess we need more command authorized inspections huh. haha JK

Viperboy, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. Look at where Kinnick high school is. Do you know where the single sailor barracks is? RIGHT NEXT TO THE GALLEY. What does it take for some high school chick to walk over to the barracks and seduce some young and dumb sailor? NOTHING.

keith, I thought you were sitting this one out?

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keith, I thought you were sitting this one out?

You know what, I really want to. But this really gets under my skin. And it bothers me more when people make excuses to allow it to continue happening

haha thats good, guess we need more command authorized inspections huh. haha JK

Just saying.. back in the late 90's I heard a LOT of stories.. I remember more stories in the early 00's.. Atsugi had a big problem with this, because most people had cars, and they all lived in Barracks rooms. They used to sneak tons of girls, into their barracks rooms.. Mostly Japanese..

well KEITH, APPARENTLY I AM MISSING THE POINT. IM GOING ON MY RANT PROBABLY BECAUSE FOR STUPID SH** LIKE THIS SECURITY IS ALWAYS TO BLAME, WE GET BLAMED FOR THE MOST STUPID SH** FROM PEOPLE AND I GUESS I WAS MORE DEFENDING THE SECURITY DEPARTMENT THAN GETTING THE GOD DA** POINT.

And it bothers me more when people make excuses to allow it to continue happening

I dont think its Vipers fault.. He is a security patrolman.. they cannot be everywhere.. I would rather them be protecting the base, then some teenager in a barracks room.

Adam, yes kids lie to their parents. They just do. I can't imagine keeping tabs on a 17 yr old every second. If parents are that over bearing, they run the risk of the kids acting out even worse. I'm not saying kids should do whatever they want, but they need breathing room, and a chance to make their own mistakes.

well KEITH, APPARENTLY I AM MISSING THE POINT. IM GOING ON MY RANT PROBABLY BECAUSE FOR STUPID SH** LIKE THIS SECURITY IS ALWAYS TO BLAME, WE GET BLAMED FOR THE MOST STUPID SH** FROM PEOPLE AND I GUESS I WAS MORE DEFENDING THE SECURITY DEPARTMENT THAN GETTING THE GOD DA** POINT.

Vipe.. Dude, you have to understand Keith.. He is known for raising flags with discussions. Sometimes, its positive, and sometimes, it gets on others nerves. I tried to step in and defend security if you read above.

a chance to make their own mistakes

yes I agree with this, and it helps them learn from those mistakes (HOPEFULLY)!!!

Viper, I'm not blaming security. I'm blaming the parents. Quit taking it so personally. I know that you guys have more to worry about than teenage girls looking for d***. I blame the parents, and bad parenting.

I just moved the post from family to teens. Hopefully those teens onbase that read this, will get a clue, and realize its not worth it..

well i apologize for getting off topic.

No worries, man. But I think that this really is a serious thing that needs to get tackled. I hate to c***block shipmates, but it's just plain wrong. No way around it.

I hate to c***block shipmates, but it's just plain wrong. No way around it.

Your not, your saving their careers.. There are plenty of Japanese girls, out there, that they can go and date...

Hmph, how amusing. On a military base, these things can be somewhat regulated ie. no high school students allowed in barracks and there is someone there to stand watch to make sure no one slips in, etc. Where I went to college 1) we had co-ed rooms as well as co-ed bathrooms and 2) While sailors like to think they have a monopoly on drinking and girls, um I remember going to a few frat parties where they were 14 and 15 year old girls and no one to keep an eye on that. It was rather disgusting. Frat boys tend to have quite a bit more money than an E3, too. This when I was 18 and living in my own dorm room, MANY of the frat boys were about 20 or so, since they were seniors, and just peachy keen with the younger girls.

Military or not, older guys getting their jollies on younger girls isn't something new. Doesn't make it right, either. I simply knew a few basic things like 1) Don't put yourself into a situation that puts yourself at risk (no I didn't get drunk at the frat parties nor did I stay long 2) Don't freaking mess around with a guy who's in his 20's when you are friggin 15.

Let's not even talk about the Professors in their 50's who were messing around with the college girls. Ugh.

There are plenty of Japanese girls, out there, that they can go and date...

Adam, you know I have all the respect in the world for you, but please don't make it sound like Japanese girls are easy.

Good story Julie...

but please don't make it sound like Japanese girls are easy.

I am not.. ANY GIRL, ANY GIRL, you should show respect to, and if you approach any woman, the right way, I think you could take them on a date. I never intended to say that Japanese were easy..

My post got ate lets try this again:

Liz, I'm gonna say that you're talking out of the side of your face on this one. If i was 19, and a high school was oh, less than half a mile away, guess what honey. It's GAME ON. And that's the sad reality of it.

My guys tend to be older since they had to be 21+ in the first place, so yeah they got hounded. Don't get me wrong, some congratulated, lol.

I don't have a problem with the younger Sailors dating teens but I think it's messed up to screw around with another Sailor's daughter. C'mon. I'm also sure they get snuck into those rooms, as some of the guys on watch will let it slide/not properly stand their watch (as has been pretty much confirmed in here). I can also see the allure of "older" guys to these HS girls. I dated a Sailor when I was in HS (we both met in school, he was older, though).

I do think it's serious problem because these Sailors shouldn't be diddling around with their Chief's daughter when there is so many available chicks off base, but I guess that's a personal belief.

Military or not, older guys getting their jollies on younger girls isn't something new

And truth be told its the same for woman.

Don't freaking mess around with a guy who's in his 20's when you are friggin 15.

ya your right in saying that, because that would help sailors and teenagers alike stay outa trouble but the girls doing this WANT IT, and like previously stated they will do anything ie: sneak out. to get it, that whole post made by Julie to me seems totally F***ed up making it look like its always the "GUYS" fault.

Posted By Adam Jones on 01 Feb 2010 11:49 PM

but please don't make it sound like Japanese girls are easy.

I am not.. ANY GIRL, ANY GIRL, you should show respect to, and if you approach any woman, the right way, I think you could take them on a date. I never intended to say that Japanese were easy..

Crap.... I've failed time and time again trying to be respectful to women. They want to be disrespected. But this is something to be discussed on the "dating american women" thread. If anyone has replies, copy and paste, and post there.

I had thought there was an article in Stars and Stripes about this within the last 2 years, that high school girls were getting caught sneaking into military barracks. A "policy" was put in place forthis too, so of course that solves the problem. The problem basically is that they won't let the young guys who live in the barracks have any female companionship.

Can't have Japanese girls on base overnight or in the barracks at all, and not enough money for off base hotel. (Plus they are more in the mood right on base after that trio to Taco Bell, let 'em back off base they are ready to go home alone instead of a hotel). Military women know thy risk their reputation and their career so they wont go in there either. So who is left? Somebody's wife at his place when he is gone or HS kids in the barracks...

If they would let sailors actually treat their barracks room like their home and have alcohol there and "female guests" I am sure a lot of the current problems would go away (and probably create some new ones). The guys wouldn't even go out to get in trouble with alcohol, just stay home and chill out with their favorite girl. But they can't so have to resort to sneaking in the closest available women and going out in town to drink.

Blacklabel: You were right!  I found this old article below.

Military: Barracks room is no place for high school students
By Allison Batdorff, Stars and Stripes
Pacific edition, Wednesday, March 12, 2008

YOKOSUKA NAVAL BASE, Japan — Barracks residents beware: high school students cannot tarry there.

Warning signs went up on barracks doors at Yokosuka a few months ago to remind residents that — even on a military base — a high school student’s place is not in a servicemember’s room.

Scant years may separate teens from the 18- to 24-year-old servicemember. But those turn to light years when it comes to sex, teens under 16 and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

The recent firestorm on Okinawa when a U.S. Marine was accused of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl — the case was later dropped by Japanese prosecutors — renewed the focus on the behavior of U.S. troops in regard to sexual assault.

Even when there is no force, the agreement to have sex doesn’t matter if it’s agreed upon by a child under 16 years old, the age of consent set by the UCMJ, said Lt. Cmdr. James Mills, the military justice department head at Yokosuka’s Region Legal Service Office.

The office, which handles cases from naval bases across the region, has prosecuted five cases involving sexual assaults of minors in the last few years, with charges ranging from carnal knowledge — the military equivalent to statutory rape — to indecent acts with a child.

None involved force. All resulted in convictions, Mills said.

“The message needs to be they can consent, and we will still convict you,” Mills said. “All we have to prove is that the couple had sex, they’re not married, and the child is underage. The burden of proof is very low.”

Consider a 2007 case from Misawa Air Base in which a 20-year-old airman met a 15-year-old while he volunteered to help with the high school girls basketball team. The teenager was later found in the airman’s dormitory room during an inspection. A no-contact order was given, but the couple continued to see each other, resulting in a parental call to security after the teenager snuck out of her room.

After the airman received a bad-conduct discharge, nine months’ confinement and reduction in rank to E-1, lead prosecutor Capt. Michael Brusca told Stars and Stripes that “love conquers all, except the UCMJ.”

A 2007 Yokosuka case involved a 14-year-old who met a USS Shiloh sailor on Myspace.com, a social networking site. They were caught in base housing by the child’s active-duty parent. The sailor was sentenced to a year of confinement, reduction in rank to E-1 and total forfeiture of pay and allowances.
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UCMJ clear on rules about age of consent

The UCMJ is clear: Servicemembers cannot have sex with teenagers before the age of consent — 16. If the child is 12 or under, there’s no excuse. If the child is over 12 years old, the UCMJ allows for the defense “I thought the person was over the age of consent” only if it is “honest” and “reasonable” according to the community standard.

At a military base, everyone has an identification card and juries have found that it’s reasonable to check in some recent cases, said Lt. Cmdr. James Mills.

Here are some of the common misconceptions servicemembers and teens under 16 have about sex with each other.

    * Does it matter that the teen consented? No.
    * Does it matter if the couple has parental approval? No.
    * Does it matter if the teen made a pass at the servicemember? No.
    * Does it matter if the teen misrepresented their age? No, unless it is “honest” and “reasonable” according to the community standard.
    * Does it matter that the law in the state where it happened wouldn’t prosecute the servicemember? No.
    * Does it matter if the child looks “old enough?” No.
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Military: Barracks room is no place for high school students

Wow these examples are much younger than I expected... 15, 14.. So I guess 16 is allowed? Wow.. didnt know that..

I think they should be allowed guests and alcohol, to a certain extent of course. The problems would be the HS girls, parties, fights in the barracks, etc. Ruins it for all the good guys.

The last base I worked on they practically closed down the E-club and all these guys were on base for A and B school... so where they can they go now? Off base, of course! But it's not like here where they could walk to bars, it was quite the drive, and even longer to even get to a "party" area. Caused more problems than it did good, I think.

ya your right in saying that, because that would help sailors and teenagers alike stay outa trouble but the girls doing this WANT IT

Yeah, of course they want it, but Sailors still have the power to say no, as they should in the first place. Who cares what these girls want, they're still practically children, they need someone to step in and say no, whether it be the Sailor or a third party... hopefully their parents catch on one day. If a Sailor, male or female is sneaking a High Schooler around in their barracks when they KNOW they're off limits... then yeah, it's pretty much their fault. Teeny should get in trouble too (do they have some kind of punishment for kids on base besides the parents "taking care" of them?), but the Sailor was... well, in the Military on a base, the older, broke strict rules knowingly, etc, and should be punished accordingly. *shrug*